What happens when life gets so dark that you can't imagine finding your way out?
In this deeply personal episode of herspective, Jillian and Drey open up about their experiences with depression, hitting rock bottom, and navigating seasons of life that felt almost impossible to survive.
From recognizing the signs of depression to finding the courage to ask for help, they share what their darkest moments looked like and the small but meaningful steps that helped them begin finding their way back.
Together, they explore the importance of friendship, community, therapy, movement, and faith when life feels overwhelming. They also discuss the reality that healing isn't linear, that asking for help is a form of strength, and that sometimes making it through another day is an accomplishment in itself.
If you've ever felt like you're barely keeping your head above water while everyone around you seems to be moving forward, this episode is for you. Whether you're in the middle of your own dark season, trying to make sense of one you've survived, or loving someone who's struggling, this conversation offers something more than encouragement. It's an honest look at what it means to keep going when you don't feel hopeful, how to recognize when you need support, and the practical ways you can begin finding your footing again.
This isn't a conversation about having all the answers or pretending that everything happens for a reason. It's about being honest when you're not okay, allowing others to show up for you, and remembering that even in your darkest season, you deserve support and the opportunity to experience joy again.
Because your darkest chapter doesn't have to be your final one. And sometimes, hearing how someone else survived theirs is exactly the reminder you need that there's still hope for yours.
Content advisory: This episode includes discussions of depression, suicidal thoughts, and emotional distress. If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 for free, confidential support, available 24/7 in the United States.