Episode 123: Soft Life, Big Goals

We all want a soft life, but what happens when the life we're dreaming of requires us to work harder than ever to get there?

In this episode of herspective, Jillian and Drey unpack what it really means to pursue big goals while still making room for peace, happiness, and the people who matter most. From building businesses and chasing financial freedom to dreaming about marriage, motherhood, and cozy homes, they're exploring what their ideal lives look like and whether ambition and balance can actually coexist.

While their definitions of a soft life might look a little different, they agree on one thing: success means more than money, a big house, or a packed calendar. It's about having the freedom to spend your time doing what you love, with the people you love.

They also get honest about the less glamorous side of chasing your dreams, including burnout, shifting priorities, sacrificing personal time, and recognizing when your mental, physical, or spiritual well-being is taking a back seat.

Because maybe the goal isn't to stop working hard. Maybe it's to build a life where all that hard work actually means something.

And yes, they'd still like a boat.

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